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@  Caryn : (31 October 2014 - 07:37 AM) It's blue!!! Of course lol
@  Mavdb : (31 October 2014 - 06:31 AM) lol Caryn it is the same thing! Let me guess, it's blue?
@  Caryn : (30 October 2014 - 10:51 PM) I bought my rats a new chew toy today! :D Ok, I lie, it's just a new bed linen/duvet set... but same thing :P
@  robynlyn : (30 October 2014 - 10:25 PM) thats great news! i think ill wait till next year or untill one screams BUY ME! I like to adopt the pets that i just cant get out of my head! (in some way i like to think they choose there owners)
@  ronelrat : (30 October 2014 - 08:32 PM) Robynlyn...I think Lisa said she's going to keep him. His brothers and sisters still up for adoption. Tails its the new Mischief litter
@  ronelrat : (30 October 2014 - 08:31 PM) So cool Mavdb
@  Mavdb : (30 October 2014 - 07:45 PM) Amazing! Dennis just lay on his back in my hands and ate his snacks :thud:
@  robynlyn : (30 October 2014 - 02:40 PM) Cool I chatted to her today said if he does not find a home I'll have to chat to hubby ot seek him into my mischief
@  raggedtoothg... : (30 October 2014 - 11:24 AM) Tails, he's one of the Mischief litter. He hasn't been booked yet but I think Lisa (his foster mom) is considering keeping him.
@  Tails : (30 October 2014 - 10:54 AM) 3 legged rat? did i miss that post?
@  robynlyn : (29 October 2014 - 09:03 PM) That little 3 legged rat has been on my mind. Does anyone know if he got a home. Think I have a soft spot for the little guy.
@  Tails : (29 October 2014 - 01:56 PM) Aw no! Hope you're not gone for long! Keep up posted on FB so we know you're ok n all :)
@  CindyR : (29 October 2014 - 11:59 AM) I'm going to be off air for a while from the forum. My work here is too overwhelming and I don't have time, even at home, to check updates. I even been taking work home to try and finish. So cheers for now till later. Will miss you guys!!!!
@  Tails : (29 October 2014 - 10:39 AM) Hehe thanks guys :) They had apple crumble pie hehe I like the idea of the blueberries! I dont even buy those for myself cos they're usually expensive and my girls don't even like strawberries lol so if they dont eat them then I'll eat them haha
@  Rattieroos : (29 October 2014 - 07:15 AM) New pics of babies passed out after playing in ratty chats, new additions :D
@  LuvRats : (28 October 2014 - 09:42 PM) Re bday cupcakes, I'm lucky that I have Limnos in the mall which I have to walk past to the parking.. they sell their cupcakes in singles. I let the boys lick some icing off, then I take the rest of the icing.. and then I help them eat it (don't want them eating all the sweetness, wouldn't be healthy) :P
@  Rattieroos : (28 October 2014 - 06:52 PM) Mine love the mini rice cakes coated in yoghurt. You can get sugar free Marie biscuits, make plain butter icing and sprinkles? Just some thoughts then although you have the icing you don't have the added sugar in the biscuits as well and no colourants. :) iced Marie's are awesome :D
@  Mavdb : (28 October 2014 - 05:48 PM) @ Tails. What about blueberries, popcorn, mini rice cakes?
@  Tails : (28 October 2014 - 04:50 PM) I need some ideas of some nice noms to get Brie for her birthday....dont really want to buy a whole tray of cupcakes, esp with their artificial colourant in the icing...(it's just something for today, will do proper shoot on weekend with more party foods :))
@  Caryn : (28 October 2014 - 01:39 PM) lol at RTG! Glad I could help :P And big congRATS Caraludick!!

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Rats found in poor health, advise needed


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Good morning Ratanoogians or (Bad morning)

 

For those who didn't follow the post , On Sunday I went to go pick up 2 rats who were advertised on Gumtree,The paln was that they would go to Settican if all was well. The sight that greeted me was one of pure horror. Perhaps the worst case of neglect I have seen ever with rats. One PEW who looks like he will be fine as soon as he gets onto a healthy diet and gets good regular baths and his skincare gets sorted out . The other one Felix is just skin and bone with a long standing case of Myco. He seems blind in both eyes and very weak

 

 

I have Felix on Doxy/Baytrill for the myco but he is completely emaciated. He still eats quite well and gulps up all the veg he can stomach. I have him on some natural remedies aswel and I am taking care of his skin

 

Any advise one care would be greatly appreciated

 

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[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants in Munkies' hotel for rats : Munkie, Bree, Peanut,Snow, Fiona , Heidi, Lucy [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants in The Gentlemans clubhouse : Bchman & Turner [/font]

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This is the other one Alex

 

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[font="georgia, serif;"]"Rats are prolific, resilient and brave. In times of adversity they display all the characteristics we despise them for like cunning, determination and imagination ...."[/font]

 

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants in Munkies' hotel for rats : Munkie, Bree, Peanut,Snow, Fiona , Heidi, Lucy [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants in The Gentlemans clubhouse : Bchman & Turner [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Mouselings House : Muis-hond [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Dessert wanderers : Cloak and Dagger [/font]

 

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants at the bridge : Cuddles, Pixi-Panda, Soup, Alex, Felix , Aladdin Sane [/font]


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Shame :( How could people be so cruel?!?!

 

I would reccomend some (Just a little bit) scrambled egg to stars bulking him up. It's easy to eat and does have quite a lot of protein so too much isn't good but it really helps keep condition on them (I gave it to the two pregnant does and their weanlings in my care and they thrived on it.)

 

Futurelife porridge is also great and is fortified with vitamins which might help give him an immune boost.

 

I give my boys kiddies vitamin drops in their water and that also boosts their immune systems.Also try giving him protexin or live probiotic culture yoghurt. It will help restore a good balance of flora in his gut and the yoghurt is also a nice treat and great to get meds into them.

 

Also maybe treat him for parasites? Maybe he has worms and that's stopping him from getting all the other nutrients he needs. If he is struggling to put on weight though and the other rat seems fine, maybe it's a medical condition like diabetes? In which case he's have to go to a vet.


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Do you know how old the rats are? Felix looks like a rat with renal failure. I have had quite a few rats who started looking like that around 18 months old and they get progressively worse but can still run around and be happy for several months. They get a sucked-in waist, you can feel their ribs but often if they had a bit of a belly then that stays for quite a while. I will take pics of my oldies later to show you for comparison. If it is renal failure, my vet suggests cutting out animal-based protein from the diet. As for his skin, it looks like he has buck grease (orange spots) which is normal, especially in older rats if they don't groom properly. With the spots, my best guess would be protein sores, from a diet too high in protein. A lot of people just feed the rats sunflower seeds and dog biscuits, both of which are high in protein. A normal healthy diet should sort him out if that's the case. Some studies have shown that you shouldn't mix medicine with natural remedies because some natural ingredients (like rooibos) can affect how the antibiotics work. So I would suggest only using one or the other. Or at least doing the natural remedies in the morning and antibiotics in the evening (or vice versa).

 

Keep up the good work and I hope these guys flesh out soon.


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I would suggest the Coconut porridge I have up on my Facebook page it's high in energy and fat which will help bulk them up and also give them the energy their bodies need to start healing. It has worked really well in the past week for 2 of my sickly rats. It smells great so they will tuck in.

 

Please make sure to use the organic variety. The ingredients last a really long time since a little goes a long way. I am totally bought over by this recipe as it's completely GMO free, wheat free, preservative free and you know what is going into it unlike cereal.

 

The great thing about coconut is that its nourishing, it helps with skin ailments, helps coat health, it kills bacteria, helps fight infections so it really is very good.

 

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CaptainRat you know my FB page I would suggest taking a read on everything I have up on there. If you have any questions just PM me, . I can also help out with some remedies since we both live in CT. Also I can also give you some natural lice and flea removal that won't harm them.

 

Let me know what I can do. 

 

Edit: you are doing a great job and this is hectic. We are lucky to have people like you in our community! Keep us posted on the little dears. 



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Oh geez!!  That is so bad.  I feel so sorry for the poor babies.  I actally felt a pit in my stomach when I saw Felix.  Get him on ensure or the coconut porridge and hope he gets better soon and keep us posted.



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Hey Ratanoogians

 

Thanks a million for the suggestions I will definitely use all the advise given, I have few tricks up my sleeve but have never dealt with neglect or health issues on this scale

 

I have started the de-worming process on Sunday and for the skin I have them on Aloverox Gel and clay powder in within 2 days there is a visible difference already and they seem a lot more "clean" I got this advise from my animal communicator / natural healer and it has worked wonders for my ratties in the past

 

I am going to stick to the "real" medicine for his myco and slowly introduce the natural stuff. I forgot about the Rooibos combating the prescribed medicine so thanks for the heads up. I have no idea how old they are .... very old would be my guess .

 

They (esp Felix) has taken a liking to cooked butternut. Their diet before hand and the bag of pellets I was handed was your run of the mill hamster mix. So old and stale it had those little bugs running inside, I actually stop along the road and threw it out on a field for the birds.

 

I have moved them to the Reggie Rat and normal rat mix I get from my local petshop for dry food.

I am keeping cooked veg in the cage so that the two can eat it as and when they please. I put some in yesterday morning and when I got home after work not a morsel was left.

 

Olive leave in the water and a drop of Sandle wood on Felixs'es chest to help with the hard breathing.

 

I do appreciate all the advice and tips and promise to report on this as often as possible , In fact I will do a separate post on them and their progress to keep you'all in the loop


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[font="georgia, serif;"]"Rats are prolific, resilient and brave. In times of adversity they display all the characteristics we despise them for like cunning, determination and imagination ...."[/font]

 

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants in Munkies' hotel for rats : Munkie, Bree, Peanut,Snow, Fiona , Heidi, Lucy [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants in The Gentlemans clubhouse : Bchman & Turner [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Mouselings House : Muis-hond [/font]

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Dessert wanderers : Cloak and Dagger [/font]

 

[font="'comic sans ms', cursive;"]Current occupants at the bridge : Cuddles, Pixi-Panda, Soup, Alex, Felix , Aladdin Sane [/font]





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