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@  DiscoMoose : (10 February 2016 - 01:23 PM) Bolliemuis aka therapy-rat :tummykiss: :tummykiss: :tummykiss: I was having the worst day and he just spent a good few minutes boggling and bruxing while I stroke him :) Now I feel much better.
@  Wolfmoon : (10 February 2016 - 11:38 AM) @ loly That's so cute!! Rats are really adorable :Kiss:
@  DiscoMoose : (09 February 2016 - 02:41 PM) shame, poor Smudge lol
@  lollyh : (09 February 2016 - 01:59 PM) bathed my ratties today. :ratyes: i thought rue would be the trouble maker but she was the most well behaved & actually enjoyed the bath.honey was abit unhappy but that's because of all her sores.poor girl.but my calm well behaved smudge.ha gave me such a hard time.squeaked at me,ran away & while drying gave me dirty looks & squeaked.quite a grumpy rat.wouldn't even give me kisses. lol :D
@  DiscoMoose : (09 February 2016 - 12:12 PM) bleaaaaargh for ridonculous computer errors that come out of nowhere and take up all day to attempt to fix. On the upside, I think the Bollie man may be a few grams lighter already...
@  Wolfmoon : (09 February 2016 - 08:49 AM) I'm sorry :P
@  Tails : (09 February 2016 - 08:35 AM) @wolfmoon pls create a thread for your questions, but yes the Gentleman's cage is easy for the little ones to escape from. I have this cage as my baby cage until they're big enough for the big cage (I also have the Gentleman's Cage) http://www.petmaniao...&product_id=765
@  Wolfmoon : (09 February 2016 - 07:34 AM) Naw, that's so cute! I got the gentleman's cage and a smaller cage for just in case :ratlol:
@  Rattieroos : (08 February 2016 - 09:26 PM) Moon, I put my little 6 week babas straight into the gentleman's cage with Roxie and Alfred...no problems with bar spacing... But I do know some squeeze through like CindyR's naughty nunu. Or maybe because they'll be alone, whereas mine had older rats in their already? I have a spare XL cage always available just in case of fosters or newbies or a fight I have to separate, the blue cage in my pics is on of my travel cages or a hospital cage, which I also used when bringing babies home for a while. Seeing how much fun these too spitfires are having charging up and down and all over the big cage it makes me wonder why we never give the babies all the extra space...because they just bundles of energy. ( when I say we, I mean I ) lol
@  Wolfmoon : (08 February 2016 - 07:12 PM) I am getting the gentlemen's cage but it has too big wire so do you think I can use something to keep them in or do I have no option other than getting a temporary cage?
@  ThorAndLoki : (08 February 2016 - 06:23 PM) And, the cheapest amaizing corn litter I've found from anywhere other than pet mania is R50... pet mania is R35 for the same pack so definitely worth ordering from them! They are awesome! Their hammocks and tents are great too
@  Wolfmoon : (08 February 2016 - 04:24 PM) Thank you @Tails!!
@  Tails : (08 February 2016 - 04:19 PM) I use the fine bedding though, they have a new chunky one but when damp it breaks down into a fine dust so I dont recommend it
@  Tails : (08 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) and you can always ask them if unsure cos they love rats jst like we do
@  Tails : (08 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) @wolfmoon - almost everything at pet mania is rat safe
@  Tails : (08 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) i love me some Wheatfields babies!!
@  Tails : (08 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) oooh philly - that means Wheatfields! :D
@  Wolfmoon : (08 February 2016 - 04:07 PM) :ratlol: the horror! XD
@  Wolfmoon : (08 February 2016 - 04:07 PM) Omw nooooooo
@  DiscoMoose : (08 February 2016 - 04:02 PM) ahaa. yeah I would definitely not recommend a pick 'n pay cage. :ratlol:

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Rats found in poor health, advise needed


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Good morning Ratanoogians or (Bad morning)

 

For those who didn't follow the post , On Sunday I went to go pick up 2 rats who were advertised on Gumtree,The paln was that they would go to Settican if all was well. The sight that greeted me was one of pure horror. Perhaps the worst case of neglect I have seen ever with rats. One PEW who looks like he will be fine as soon as he gets onto a healthy diet and gets good regular baths and his skincare gets sorted out . The other one Felix is just skin and bone with a long standing case of Myco. He seems blind in both eyes and very weak

 

 

I have Felix on Doxy/Baytrill for the myco but he is completely emaciated. He still eats quite well and gulps up all the veg he can stomach. I have him on some natural remedies aswel and I am taking care of his skin

 

Any advise one care would be greatly appreciated

 

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This is the other one Alex

 

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Shame :( How could people be so cruel?!?!

 

I would reccomend some (Just a little bit) scrambled egg to stars bulking him up. It's easy to eat and does have quite a lot of protein so too much isn't good but it really helps keep condition on them (I gave it to the two pregnant does and their weanlings in my care and they thrived on it.)

 

Futurelife porridge is also great and is fortified with vitamins which might help give him an immune boost.

 

I give my boys kiddies vitamin drops in their water and that also boosts their immune systems.Also try giving him protexin or live probiotic culture yoghurt. It will help restore a good balance of flora in his gut and the yoghurt is also a nice treat and great to get meds into them.

 

Also maybe treat him for parasites? Maybe he has worms and that's stopping him from getting all the other nutrients he needs. If he is struggling to put on weight though and the other rat seems fine, maybe it's a medical condition like diabetes? In which case he's have to go to a vet.


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Do you know how old the rats are? Felix looks like a rat with renal failure. I have had quite a few rats who started looking like that around 18 months old and they get progressively worse but can still run around and be happy for several months. They get a sucked-in waist, you can feel their ribs but often if they had a bit of a belly then that stays for quite a while. I will take pics of my oldies later to show you for comparison. If it is renal failure, my vet suggests cutting out animal-based protein from the diet. As for his skin, it looks like he has buck grease (orange spots) which is normal, especially in older rats if they don't groom properly. With the spots, my best guess would be protein sores, from a diet too high in protein. A lot of people just feed the rats sunflower seeds and dog biscuits, both of which are high in protein. A normal healthy diet should sort him out if that's the case. Some studies have shown that you shouldn't mix medicine with natural remedies because some natural ingredients (like rooibos) can affect how the antibiotics work. So I would suggest only using one or the other. Or at least doing the natural remedies in the morning and antibiotics in the evening (or vice versa).

 

Keep up the good work and I hope these guys flesh out soon.


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I would suggest the Coconut porridge I have up on my Facebook page it's high in energy and fat which will help bulk them up and also give them the energy their bodies need to start healing. It has worked really well in the past week for 2 of my sickly rats. It smells great so they will tuck in.

 

Please make sure to use the organic variety. The ingredients last a really long time since a little goes a long way. I am totally bought over by this recipe as it's completely GMO free, wheat free, preservative free and you know what is going into it unlike cereal.

 

The great thing about coconut is that its nourishing, it helps with skin ailments, helps coat health, it kills bacteria, helps fight infections so it really is very good.

 

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CaptainRat you know my FB page I would suggest taking a read on everything I have up on there. If you have any questions just PM me, . I can also help out with some remedies since we both live in CT. Also I can also give you some natural lice and flea removal that won't harm them.

 

Let me know what I can do. 

 

Edit: you are doing a great job and this is hectic. We are lucky to have people like you in our community! Keep us posted on the little dears. 



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Oh geez!!  That is so bad.  I feel so sorry for the poor babies.  I actally felt a pit in my stomach when I saw Felix.  Get him on ensure or the coconut porridge and hope he gets better soon and keep us posted.



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Hey Ratanoogians

 

Thanks a million for the suggestions I will definitely use all the advise given, I have few tricks up my sleeve but have never dealt with neglect or health issues on this scale

 

I have started the de-worming process on Sunday and for the skin I have them on Aloverox Gel and clay powder in within 2 days there is a visible difference already and they seem a lot more "clean" I got this advise from my animal communicator / natural healer and it has worked wonders for my ratties in the past

 

I am going to stick to the "real" medicine for his myco and slowly introduce the natural stuff. I forgot about the Rooibos combating the prescribed medicine so thanks for the heads up. I have no idea how old they are .... very old would be my guess .

 

They (esp Felix) has taken a liking to cooked butternut. Their diet before hand and the bag of pellets I was handed was your run of the mill hamster mix. So old and stale it had those little bugs running inside, I actually stop along the road and threw it out on a field for the birds.

 

I have moved them to the Reggie Rat and normal rat mix I get from my local petshop for dry food.

I am keeping cooked veg in the cage so that the two can eat it as and when they please. I put some in yesterday morning and when I got home after work not a morsel was left.

 

Olive leave in the water and a drop of Sandle wood on Felixs'es chest to help with the hard breathing.

 

I do appreciate all the advice and tips and promise to report on this as often as possible , In fact I will do a separate post on them and their progress to keep you'all in the loop


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