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@  Rattieroos : (27 September 2016 - 10:40 PM) Thank you so much everyone, I wasn't going to come on again today. Not quite sure how I got here now. It was a shock to say the least. Thanks for all the condolences *hugs*
@  Amber : (27 September 2016 - 08:42 PM) I'm so sorry again for your loss my friend! :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry: :cry: :cry: :ratsadlook: :ratsadlook:
@  lollyh : (27 September 2016 - 02:19 PM) :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry: oh roos.i am so so sorry.
@  Cappucino : (27 September 2016 - 10:42 AM) oh no, so sorry :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry:
@  DiscoMoose : (27 September 2016 - 10:06 AM) so sorry Nikki... :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry: and I agree with the others, you are a great rattie mom! *hugs* one of the best
@  Rattieroos : (27 September 2016 - 09:18 AM) My gentle Squeak is gone :bigeyecry: will say proper goodbye later :bigeyecry: :bigeyecry:
@  Rattieroos : (26 September 2016 - 02:00 PM) Thanks Chantal and Amber I know I'm being silly but still it helps to hear that from you guys, really :thanx: *hugs*
@  Amber : (26 September 2016 - 01:46 PM) Oh Nikki, you are a very loving rat mom and you are your best for them! *hugs* You are a good rat mom! *hugs* But I do understand how you feel. :ratsad:
@  Cappucino : (26 September 2016 - 01:20 PM) Roos if I've learnt one thing being a rat mum over last 7 months, it's that they're extremely complex little creatures, with medical problems that can be as complicated as humans. You love your babies so much, it's clear for all of us to see, you are the best rat mom they could ever have, don't forget that *hugs*
@  Rattieroos : (26 September 2016 - 12:07 PM) Lolly I'm glad to here Tia is missed by others as well. You know she was loved and a beautiful wolf/dog. *hugs*
@  Rattieroos : (26 September 2016 - 12:06 PM) Thanks Tails, he did check for diabetes. That was one of the things I thought of as well. But he's clear. He's also now developed a very congested form of sneezing fits, his whole little body jumps. He's got the cyst on his eye, he's taking Baytril and monitoring him but he's not happy. :( :( Bubbles is dying but has perked up a bit with the Fortekor so I'm grateful for that. I'm so worried about my boys!! :cry: so much so that I feel all advice I give others now is nonsense and I'm a bad rat mom :(
@  Tails : (26 September 2016 - 08:26 AM) @Rattieroos I'd say check for diabetes. Sounds like how my dog Gizmo was, and she was diabetic. *hugs*
@  lollyh : (25 September 2016 - 10:41 PM) had my neighbor from the bottom of our cul-de-sac ask where tia has been. my mom had to tell her what happened & she was so upset & will miss seeing her beautiful face every day -as my neighbor walks home every day passed our house..she sends her condolences to me. :ratsad: :ratsad: .its nice to know tia will be missed by not just me. :cry:
@  Rattieroos : (24 September 2016 - 12:24 PM) Thanks Lolly, he doesn't eat necessarily more he just eats like he hasn't for ages and stays with the bowl till finished where the others have moved off already... Although he hogged the bowl since baby. It's the amount of water he's drinking and still losing weight regardless of all that. Done revolution in the last few months, vet did a urine test today which was fine, no glucose. He know has a cyst on one eye as well which wasn't there yesterday. Dr says he has same symptoms as bubble and thinks it weird that both could have kidney failure and aren't related. So he's put Squeak and Bubble both on Baytril and said I must start the Fortekor on Squeak as well and he's going to look into getting tapeworm meds just in case, he said the ones that normally make them sick would have been treated by the revolution. So we're a bit stuck. He might try get bloods again next. Eish!!
@  lollyh : (24 September 2016 - 10:31 AM) nothing like a rattie cuddle so early in the day.rascal lying in my arm,head in arm crop,tail in hand,back scratches for her,brux & boogles & then grooming my arm in return,times like these,ratties are worth the heart ache. :Kiss: :ggmr:
@  lollyh : (23 September 2016 - 11:32 PM) oh roosi am so sorry.poor squeak. :ratsad: :ratsad: .will he eat more roos or when he has enough he stops?
@  Rattieroos : (23 September 2016 - 09:54 PM) Vet fist thing in the morning with Sqeak again. He thinks it might be an endocrine thing...either over active thyroid, diabetes or Cushing :( neither treatable really but at least we'll know. In two months he's gone from 520g to 415-420g and still eats like he's starving. So worried as he is also showing signs of depression :cry:
@  Rattieroos : (23 September 2016 - 09:04 PM) Thanks Chantal, Tails at first I thought that but then I wasn't sure.
@  Cappucino : (23 September 2016 - 07:36 PM) Poor Bubbles and Squeak...hope they perk up soon
@  Cappucino : (23 September 2016 - 07:36 PM) I think it was very traumatic for poor Touille. ..he was making an ungodly screeching sound!

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Good morning Ratanoogians or (Bad morning)

 

For those who didn't follow the post , On Sunday I went to go pick up 2 rats who were advertised on Gumtree,The paln was that they would go to Settican if all was well. The sight that greeted me was one of pure horror. Perhaps the worst case of neglect I have seen ever with rats. One PEW who looks like he will be fine as soon as he gets onto a healthy diet and gets good regular baths and his skincare gets sorted out . The other one Felix is just skin and bone with a long standing case of Myco. He seems blind in both eyes and very weak

 

 

I have Felix on Doxy/Baytrill for the myco but he is completely emaciated. He still eats quite well and gulps up all the veg he can stomach. I have him on some natural remedies aswel and I am taking care of his skin

 

Any advise one care would be greatly appreciated

 

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This is the other one Alex

 

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Shame :( How could people be so cruel?!?!

 

I would reccomend some (Just a little bit) scrambled egg to stars bulking him up. It's easy to eat and does have quite a lot of protein so too much isn't good but it really helps keep condition on them (I gave it to the two pregnant does and their weanlings in my care and they thrived on it.)

 

Futurelife porridge is also great and is fortified with vitamins which might help give him an immune boost.

 

I give my boys kiddies vitamin drops in their water and that also boosts their immune systems.Also try giving him protexin or live probiotic culture yoghurt. It will help restore a good balance of flora in his gut and the yoghurt is also a nice treat and great to get meds into them.

 

Also maybe treat him for parasites? Maybe he has worms and that's stopping him from getting all the other nutrients he needs. If he is struggling to put on weight though and the other rat seems fine, maybe it's a medical condition like diabetes? In which case he's have to go to a vet.


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Do you know how old the rats are? Felix looks like a rat with renal failure. I have had quite a few rats who started looking like that around 18 months old and they get progressively worse but can still run around and be happy for several months. They get a sucked-in waist, you can feel their ribs but often if they had a bit of a belly then that stays for quite a while. I will take pics of my oldies later to show you for comparison. If it is renal failure, my vet suggests cutting out animal-based protein from the diet. As for his skin, it looks like he has buck grease (orange spots) which is normal, especially in older rats if they don't groom properly. With the spots, my best guess would be protein sores, from a diet too high in protein. A lot of people just feed the rats sunflower seeds and dog biscuits, both of which are high in protein. A normal healthy diet should sort him out if that's the case. Some studies have shown that you shouldn't mix medicine with natural remedies because some natural ingredients (like rooibos) can affect how the antibiotics work. So I would suggest only using one or the other. Or at least doing the natural remedies in the morning and antibiotics in the evening (or vice versa).

 

Keep up the good work and I hope these guys flesh out soon.


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I would suggest the Coconut porridge I have up on my Facebook page it's high in energy and fat which will help bulk them up and also give them the energy their bodies need to start healing. It has worked really well in the past week for 2 of my sickly rats. It smells great so they will tuck in.

 

Please make sure to use the organic variety. The ingredients last a really long time since a little goes a long way. I am totally bought over by this recipe as it's completely GMO free, wheat free, preservative free and you know what is going into it unlike cereal.

 

The great thing about coconut is that its nourishing, it helps with skin ailments, helps coat health, it kills bacteria, helps fight infections so it really is very good.

 

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CaptainRat you know my FB page I would suggest taking a read on everything I have up on there. If you have any questions just PM me, . I can also help out with some remedies since we both live in CT. Also I can also give you some natural lice and flea removal that won't harm them.

 

Let me know what I can do. 

 

Edit: you are doing a great job and this is hectic. We are lucky to have people like you in our community! Keep us posted on the little dears. 



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Oh geez!!  That is so bad.  I feel so sorry for the poor babies.  I actally felt a pit in my stomach when I saw Felix.  Get him on ensure or the coconut porridge and hope he gets better soon and keep us posted.



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Hey Ratanoogians

 

Thanks a million for the suggestions I will definitely use all the advise given, I have few tricks up my sleeve but have never dealt with neglect or health issues on this scale

 

I have started the de-worming process on Sunday and for the skin I have them on Aloverox Gel and clay powder in within 2 days there is a visible difference already and they seem a lot more "clean" I got this advise from my animal communicator / natural healer and it has worked wonders for my ratties in the past

 

I am going to stick to the "real" medicine for his myco and slowly introduce the natural stuff. I forgot about the Rooibos combating the prescribed medicine so thanks for the heads up. I have no idea how old they are .... very old would be my guess .

 

They (esp Felix) has taken a liking to cooked butternut. Their diet before hand and the bag of pellets I was handed was your run of the mill hamster mix. So old and stale it had those little bugs running inside, I actually stop along the road and threw it out on a field for the birds.

 

I have moved them to the Reggie Rat and normal rat mix I get from my local petshop for dry food.

I am keeping cooked veg in the cage so that the two can eat it as and when they please. I put some in yesterday morning and when I got home after work not a morsel was left.

 

Olive leave in the water and a drop of Sandle wood on Felixs'es chest to help with the hard breathing.

 

I do appreciate all the advice and tips and promise to report on this as often as possible , In fact I will do a separate post on them and their progress to keep you'all in the loop


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